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Brand Dating Guides
Comoy's never stamped a date code, and the standard guide to the brand opens by admitting that dating a Comoy's is far harder than dating a Dunhill. It is still very much doable — by convergence. Four independent witnesses live on the pipe: the lettering of the name, the country-of-manufacture stamp, the generation of the inlaid C on the stem, and the line name. Read together they usually give a decade, often better. And if the pipe wears a silver band, it can give you the exact year.
Updated 2026-08-21
Let us be honest at the door, because it is the honest thing that makes the rest of the page trustworthy. Comoy's never used a serial date code. There is no equivalent of Dunhill's suffix digit, no year stamped on the shank, no letter cycle. The collector guide that everyone works from says so in its own opening words: unlike Dunhill, dating the Comoy pipe is far more difficult.
What Comoy's did instead was change things — slowly, and often. The way the name was cut changed at least four times between 1900 and the 1960s. The country stamp changed wording and shape. The little inlaid C on the stem went through generations you can tell apart with your thumbnail. Lines were launched and dropped. None of those on its own gives a year. Put three of them side by side and the years where they all overlap is usually a narrow strip.
So bring us the pipe with the worn stamp. Bring us the one where the nomenclature is half gone. A Comoy's with nothing legible but a three-piece C on the stem still tells us it was almost certainly made between the end of the First World War and the early 1980s, and that is a real answer, not a shrug. Nobody leaves empty-handed.
Context, not evidence
François Comoy began making pipes at Saint-Claude in the French Jura in 1825 — clay and wood first, briar from 1848 by the standard guide's account, or 1856 by the company's own 1964 Compendium. Either way it is before London. In 1879 Henri Comoy moved to London with his cousins Louis and Charles Chapuis, and it is Henri who is credited with the words LONDON MADE — a phrase later adopted by B.B.B., Dunhill, G.B.D. and Loewe alike. The firm was incorporated as H. Comoy & Co Ltd in 1914.
Two later dates matter more than any of that to a collector. In 1929 Comoy's joined Cadogan Investments alongside the Civic Company and Oppenheimer Pipes — the merger — though its marketing stayed independent for decades. Then in the early 1980s Cadogan took over completely, and that is the cliff every Comoy's collector is really asking about. Pre-Cadogan is the collectable era. The stem logo is what tells you which side of it you are on, and we have devoted a whole table below to reading it.
In between: production nearly ceased during the Second World War, the Aldershot factory opened in 1950, and manufacture across the group came under one management in the early 1960s. One French thread is worth untangling here because it confuses people constantly — the Saint-Claude side became Chapuis-Comoy & Cie, its factory dating from 1922, and its brand CHACOM (CHApuis + COMoy) was made official in 1928. Chacom is a separate brand with a separate guide on this site; a Chacom is not a Comoy's.
Start with the stem, because it is the fastest cut. A three-piece inlaid C — a white ring, a black centre and a black gap plug, three distinct pieces you can often see the seams of — puts the pipe before the Cadogan era. A single drilled one-piece inlay, a painted C or a laser-burned C puts it after. That one look sorts most of a century.
Then read the name itself. Flowing script with a tail is the earliest form; arched serif capitals with an apostrophe is the long middle period; block capitals reading COMOYS with no apostrophe at all is a narrow and very useful window in the middle-to-late 1940s. Then the country stamp: LONDON MADE early, the circular MADE IN ENGLAND football in the late 1930s and 1940s, MADE IN LONDON in a circle with ENGLAND straight beneath it from about 1948 onward.
Finally the line name on the shank sets a floor, and a silver band beats everything else on the pipe. Comoy's banded pipes were assayed at London or Birmingham, and the date letter on the band gives a year — which is precisely why the standard Comoy's guide is as confident as it is: it was built on nineteen hallmark-dated pipes. Read the band with our UK silver hallmarks guide, and keep its own caveat in mind, because it is Comoy's guide that gave the rest of the world that caveat: bands were bought in batches, so a hallmark can honestly run about a year ahead of the finished pipe.
From the primary record
Most Comoy's dating is built from collector guides. We went looking for period print to test them against, and the British newspaper record gave us a Grand Slam ladder that no secondary source has. The earliest UK retail attestation we hold is a tobacconist's classified in the Dundee Evening Telegraph of 29 October 1934: "TRY a Grand Slam pipe, 8s 6d each." Three weeks later the East Kent Times describes the same pipe at the same price as "an enormous boon to wet smokers" — the moisture-trap patent, described in the language of the day.
By December 1936 the Grand Slam was running a national Christmas campaign, the same creative appearing across at least seven papers from the London suburbs through Kent and Surrey, still at 8/6 and now "complete with bag." In 1938 and again in 1939 a Dunoon tobacconist advertises itself as local agent for Comoy's Grand Slam pipes — the line, not just the brand, was the marquee name. And on 9 December 1939, a Bath shop lists it among sixteen brands in a wartime gift range, priced 2/6 to 25/-, under a note that window display was limited owing to lighting restrictions.
Two honest negatives came with that haul, and we publish them because absence is the part that gets quietly dropped elsewhere. We found no 1933 UK launch campaign for the Grand Slam at all — the 1933 date stands on the trade-mark registration and the patent, not on advertising. And we found no Comoy's Blue Riband advertisement anywhere in the British newspaper record, so the charming story that the line was named for the Queen Mary's 1936 Atlantic crossing remains, in our records, its author's stated belief rather than a documented fact.
The single most useful mark on the pipe, and the one that survives when the shank stamping does not. Read the construction of the C, not its shape.
Three-piece inlaid C
A white ring, a black centre and a black gap plug — three separate pieces. Introduced about 1919 and used until the Cadogan takeover. The end year is where our sources genuinely part company: the smokingpipes house history says the three-piece C remained in use until 1979, while both Derek Green's guide and pipephil say it was cancelled in the early 1980s. We publish the wide honest end of 1985 rather than pick a winner, so that a real 1980-83 pipe is not excluded by our own bracket. One period tell worth knowing: the 1920s and early-1930s version is thinner and more delicate than the post-war one.
Grand Slam bar logo (white / turquoise / white)
The one stem mark on this page we rank high. Grand Slam pipes wore a three-band bar instead of the C for the line's first twelve years, and it was replaced by the three-piece C after the war. If you have the bar, you have a Grand Slam and you have a bracket, in one look.
One-piece drilled or painted C
The early Cadogan generation: a single drilled inlay with a printed C, or simply a painted one. Green's account is that the inlay came first and was replaced by laser "more recently" — he gives no year, which is why our end is flagged as approximate rather than sourced. G.L. Pease independently reads a painted-on C as a Cadogan-era marker.
Laser-imprinted C
Recent Cadogan work. Ranked low deliberately: nobody has published the year the laser replaced the inlay, so our floor is an estimate. This is the open question we are actively trying to close — see below.
Blue C on a Blue Riband
Pipephil records that for one wartime year the Blue Riband carried a blue C rather than a white one. The year itself is unknown, so we publish the war as the bracket. A rarity, and a nice one.
C on TOP of the stem
A rare early Par Excellence variant, recorded from a cased pair. Single-example evidence — treat as a hint, not a verdict.
How COMOY'S itself was cut into the shank. Both of our main sources track these styles, and they broadly agree — but grades sometimes carried different stamps in the same years, so never date on lettering alone.
Joined flowing script with a tail
The earliest form, sometimes canted or underlined. G.L. Pease's draft records a 1916 example pairing this script with a block sans-serif LONDON MADE, which is exactly the combination our brackets predict.
Arched serif COMOY'S, with apostrophe
The long middle period: upper-case serif capitals with a big C, arched, with the grade stamped in block letters directly beneath. Pease dates a serif big-C example to 1919 from a cased Prima set, and runs the arched style to about 1938; Green has it continuing briefly after the war, which is why our bracket ends at 1948 rather than 1939.
Block sans-serif COMOYS, NO apostrophe
The most useful lettering rule on the pipe, because the window is narrow. Pipedia's dating guide puts the change at 1945 or slightly later, Pease at the mid-to-late 1940s, and both have it replaced in the early 1950s by a sans-serif version that has the apostrophe back. If the name reads COMOYS with nothing between the Y and the S, you are in a nine-year window.
Serifs return (post-war, less ornate)
Pease records that serifs came back to the name in the 1960s in a plainer typeface than the pre-war one. We publish it as a hint rather than an encoded rule — it is a single source describing a gradual change, and we have no second witness for it.
Wider brackets than the lettering, and deliberately so — our two main sources disagree about the ends of several of these, and we would rather be wide and right than narrow and wrong.
“LONDON MADE”
The earliest stamp, and Henri Comoy's own phrase. The end is honestly unsettled: pipephil says it ran until about 1915, Green says it continued on into the 1930s. We publish the wide end at 1939.
“MADE IN LONDON” (straight, without England)
Narrow and low-confidence for a good reason: Green documents this straight-line form on only two pipes, both hallmarked Old Bruyeres of 1921. Two examples is a sighting, not a period.
Circular “MADE IN ENGLAND” (the football)
The widest bracket on this page, because the sightings are scattered: Green documents the circle in 1910 on a Cecil, again in 1921, then through the 1930s. Pease is much more specific — he has the circular MADE IN ENGLAND becoming the standard country stamp from about 1938 to the mid or late 1940s — and Grand Slam pipes of 1933–45 carry it alongside the patent number. Take the wide bracket alone, but if the same pipe reads COMOYS without an apostrophe, the two rules together tighten it to the middle 1940s.
Circular “MADE IN LONDON” + straight “ENGLAND” beneath
The post-war standard. Pipephil dates its first use to the late 1940s or early 1950s, Green to the early-1950s export drive, and both agree it is never pre-war — so we publish a 1948 floor. We give it no ceiling at all: Cadogan kept variants of it in use, and an absent end year is more honest than an invented one.
A line name usually sets the earliest possible year. Where a line was genuinely dropped we publish a closed window; where it merely continued, we publish a floor and no ceiling. Ranks here reflect how well the years themselves are evidenced, not how good the pipes are.
Prima
The top grade from the early 1900s, dropped before the Second World War — Green notes that Royal became the top standard grade "after the Prima was dropped," which dates the drop only relative to itself. The 1939 end is therefore our approximation of "pre-war," not a published year. Pease's earliest dated serif example is a cased 1919 Prima set.
Old Bruyere
★The far end here was corrected by our own research on 22 July 2026 and the correction is worth reading, because it is a good example of why we keep brackets wide. Every collector source says Old Bruyere was gone by the 1965 catalogue, and that is true — of the UK catalogue. But the Comoy House / Vanguard price list for the United States, printed "EFFECTIVE July 15, 1975" and marked "OUR 150th YEAR," sells the Old Bruyere at twenty-five dollars. Whether that is continued US stock or a US-market continuation, nobody has established. So we moved our end year from 1964 to 1975 rather than tell an American collector that the pipe in his hand cannot exist. Hallmarked 1921 examples anchor the early end.
Virgin Briar
Ranked low because our sources conflict at the start and neither offers proof: Green owns a hallmarked 1925 example, while pipephil gives the period as 1933 onward. A hallmarked pipe beats a period statement, so our floor sits at a cautious 1920. Gone from the 1965 catalogue. Some Virgin Briars were fitted with the Grand Slam stinger — so a 2001612 patent number does not by itself mean Grand Slam.
Tradition
Introduced in 1925, the firm's centenary year — a date both of our main sources give independently — and produced into the 1970s. The 1979 end is our rounding of "the 1970s."
Grand Slam
The best-evidenced line on the page and the one our own archive work reaches. 1933 is the year the trade mark was registered and the year the metal-filter patent was introduced; the first pipe advertisement nobody has found, including us. Our earliest primary attestation is retail, not launch: Dundee, 29 October 1934, at 8s 6d. The line ran into the 1970s. Between those ends we can now show it nationally advertised in December 1936, carrying named local agencies in 1938 and 1939, and still on the shelf at the outbreak of war.
Blue Riband
A floor only, and a soft one. Green believes the line was named in 1936 for the Queen Mary's Blue Riband crossing — a lovely story, and he flags it himself as belief. We searched the British newspaper record for Comoy's Blue Riband advertisements and found none at all, so we have nothing to corroborate it with and nothing to contradict it either. No documented end year, so we publish no ceiling.
London Pride
Introduced "around the same time" as the Blue Riband, to which it was the second grade — a lighter finish made for the American market. A relative date is not a date, hence the low rank. Still being priced in 1979, so the floor stands alone.
Specimen Straight Grain
"Probably just before WWII" is the whole of the published evidence, and 1937 is our reading of it. Floor only.
Extraordinaire
Introduced in the 1930s and — importantly for anyone dating one — reintroduced in 1979 as the Extraordinaire I and II in a two-tone walnut finish. So this name is a floor and can never be a ceiling, and a pipe stamped Extraordinaire may be from either era. The 800-series shape numbers are the Magnum-sized Extraordinaires of the 1920s and 30s.
De Luxe
1930s examples and a presence in the 1965 catalogue. A floor, weakly evidenced, and a name so widely used across the trade that it should never carry the weight of a date on its own.
Comoy's has exactly one patent number worth knowing, and one number that looks like a date and is not.
U.S. Pat. 2001612
The Grand Slam metal stinger and filter, introduced with the line in 1933. Note that it also appears on Virgin Briars fitted with the same stinger, so the patent number brackets the FITTING, not the line.
A “*N” mark near the stem
It is a leather-washer size. Published here because it is the mark most often mistaken for a date code on this brand, and because a rule that stops you dating something wrongly is worth as much as one that dates it right.
Comoy's produced a long list of second-line and house-brand pipes. They have their own histories and their own stamps, and applying this page's line windows to them will give you a wrong answer with confidence. We list them so you can recognise one.
The documented seconds list
Cecil, Everyman (also Every Man), Town Hall, Guildhall, Yomac, H.C., Standard, Ace of Spades, Ancestor, Astor, Atwood, Britannia, Carlyle, Charles Cross, Claridge, Cromwell, Dorchester, Dunbar, Drury Lane, Dulcet, Emerson, Falcon, Grand Master, Gresham, Jockey, Kingsway, Lion's Head, Lord Clive, Hyde Park, Lloyds, Mc Gahey, Moorgate, Overland, Royal Falcon, Scotland Yard, St James, Sunrise, Sussex, The Academy Award, The Exmoor, The Golden Arrow, The Mansion House, Trident, Twin Bore and Wilshire. Ranked high because the list itself is well documented — not because we can date any individual second.
Everyman
The one second we can put a primary date on. A Banffshire tobacconist advertised "Comoy's Everyman (fine selection), at 5/-" through the autumn of 1931 — priced above generic pipes at 2/6 and just under the City-de-Luxe at 5/6, and selling in the far north of Scotland, which tells us the distribution was already national. Still being sold in the United States in 1975 in walnut, sandblast and natural finishes.
What We Don't Know Yet
Published deliberately. If you hold the catalogue, hallmarked example, or period document that closes one of these gaps, write to us — corrections are credited. Every open question across the encyclopedia is gathered on the Open Questions page.
Changelog
Sources
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